User talk:23skidoo

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• I'll reply to you on your own talk page unless you request differently.

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[edit] PLEASE PLACE NEW MESSAGES AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE -- thanks!

[edit] Thankyou 23skidoo

Dear 23skidoo, Thankyou very much for your message, and for taking the time from your semi-retirement to send it - I appreciate that. I am feeling a bit exposed and silly about this article and wish I hadn't started it. I have improved the referencing but (looking at the project page) have little heart to carry on. I wish I could delete it all but now it has been DYK I suppose that would be out. It is not so much POV as the expression of a concern which is not central to the novel's effectiveness qua novel, more to do with worries about muddling historical data. For that reason it would be nice to get it away from the actual novel's site to some other place perhaps? Thankyou again, Dr Steven Plunkett 00:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Murder of Joseph Didier AFD

Please consider changing your comments to strong keep because Joseph Didier has already been deleted. This is truly a regionally notable event and we should not get rid of all traces of Didier. I see why you favor the article of the person instead of "murder of ..." but now there is no choice. It's either "murder of ..." or get rid of him entirely (and keep thousands of really frivolous articles...which can't be deleted or accusation of WP:Pointy will surface. Thank you. Presumptive (talk) 03:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

This article has been improved but they are trying for the 3rd time to delete it at AFD. I wish they would help me look up sources. Presumptive (talk) 03:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taser

Please see my response at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Taser_controversy. Reggie Perrin (talk) 14:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taser controversy AfD

Thank you for your input on the recent AFD on Taser controversy. The editors involved with that article would like to continue the discussion on how to proceed and invite you to join the discussion at Talk:Taser controversy. The latest discussions include Talk:Taser controversy#re:Globalise and Talk:Taser controversy#Renaming this article?. Flatscan (talk) 02:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Angelina Jolie

I gave a part-reply on my talk page regarding permanent semi-protection. Unfortunately the protection policy makes it very easy for someone to request unprotection. Generally it's not carried out; most unprotection requests are from edit warriors who want to get their version back! However, the protection log is the most telling part of the tale. Because it's so long, an admin won't unprotect; or if they do, they'll keep a close eye on it. The thing with celebrities is that they attract more vandalism than normal, which is unfortunate (the protection log for J. K. Rowling backs up that claim), so the admin will take that into consideration when deciding to unprotect (or to decline the request). Just as a note, though, after a page is permanently semi-protected, requests for unprotection are rare. It should be fine. Let me know if that's helped. I tend to give my views as I would do at RfPP, but because protection is based solely on judgement (and judgement is very individual) it's hard to say what other admins would do in the same situation. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I missed your note. I hadn't protected the talk page, but sometimes the {{sprotected}} banner is used on the talk page to indicate that the article is protected. It's the same on a number of high-risk pages like celebrities, but some people don't like it. I believe it's been removed now. Sorry for the confusion. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vegan nutrition

Hello. In the talk page for veganism, it has been agreed that the article Vegan nutrition should be deleted. It has been a candidate for deletion since 5 July. Will you, or another administrator, be so kind as to delete it? Thanks. --n-k, 04:49, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Polish Americans, etc

Thanks for your message. Does Category:Naturalized citizens of the United States help? Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 07:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot crazy

Yeah, feel free to let the owner know, some of these I have had to remove because they don't really relate to video games. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Airports

In what policy does it state that airports are inherently notable? If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable. The before sentence is the basis for all articles in wikipedia. I don't see how anything can fall outside of WP:N and still have an article. I don't get how a private airport, that has recieved no attention, is able to keep a page on wikipedia. Undeath (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I already know their position and I don't agree with it. They are trying to put their project's rules over the wikipedia guidelines. I do understand that not all private airports are non notable, but I will weed out the non notable ones. Undeath (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chronology of the Harry Potter stories (2nd nomination)

See my reply to your comments here. Thanks, Dalejenkins | 12:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Airport notability discussion

You have shown interest in an airport AfD in the past at [[Chadwick Airport] You may wish to visit Stoney Point Airfield and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stoney Point Airfield to participate as well. This message is being sent to editors who participated at Chadwick but have not participated at Stoney Point, regardless of the editor's opinion. Thank you!--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Films roll call and coordinator elections

Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 07:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dev D

I think I have it licked. Found sources to indicate the film has wrapped and cited and sourced the article per film MOS. Your input would be appreciated. Regards, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Thanks for the support! Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 22:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pinacotheca

Heya - Christopher Bidmead has asked (!) where we got the title 'The Last Adventure' from for his script Pinacotheca. Looks like you added the title along with this edit and gave The Handbook: The Sixth Doctor - The Colin Baker Years 1984-1986 as the reference; I wondered whether you could confirm that for him. Hope all's well. Percy Snoodle (talk) 12:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Calling all active WP:NOVELS members

WikiProject Novels Roll Call

WikiProject Novels is currently holding a roll call, which we hope to have annually. Your username is listed on the members list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active within the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:Novels editor, please add your name back to the Active Members list. Also feel free to join any of our task forces and take a look at the project's Job Centre to get involved!

Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María (habla conmigo) 14:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please return to WikProject Media franchises

Dear 23skidoo...You are invited to come back to discuss WikiProject Media franchises. Since you participated in one or more discussions of the project, possibly when it was known as WikiProject Fictional series, I hope to see you return to it. The project needs your participation. Currently there is no activity on the project's talk page about the reorganization which is discouraging. I had great expectations for this project as it touches so many topics but am becoming discouraged. I hope to see you return. LA (If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page.) @ 19:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 13th Child AFD (Group horror AFD)

You need to add the AfD notice to each of the nominated articles for proper notification. -Chunky Rice (talk) 22:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Several of us have recommended speedy closure of your AFD due to improper use of the bulk nomination process. You can't nominate a group of unconnected motion pictures because it creates a real mess. I recommend you request closure of the current AFD and renominate each one separately. I know it's a lot of work, but every motion picture has different issues when it comes to establishing notability. Cheers. 23skidoo (talk) 02:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the information you two. Normally i never need to nominate articles in a group wise fashion though i have seen it happen before. I fully agree that the only connection between these articles is that they were all contested by one and the same user. The nomination of all of those together was more to keep things organized by allowing one place to discuss all of them; But i agree that the group AFD makes it rather hard to comment on them as the issues with the articles is not the same.

It seems the articles have already been nominated for AFD separately so i closed this AFD as a procedural keep. But seeing this entire situation i think the PROD template needs a haul over; Either removal of it should be limited to valid reasons, or we should just stick with AFD templates. Watching each and every page to see if a prod remains in place is simply not a time saver. Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 05:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shrek

I noted your comment at Alice about Shrek. Farley was to be more than the voice... he was to BE Shrek... with both voice and motion-capture movements. When he died, they brought in Mike Myers as voice (and a terrific choice), but when they needed the movements of a fat man, and because of the contacts I had made over at Sony Pictures by being the reference model for the Harry Potter mountain Troll, they brought in me to DreamWorks in Burbank and hooked me to their machines. Trivia, sure... but I was wired up with sensors for nearly 12 hours. I wish they had brought me for Shreks 2 and 3... but they had all they needed from that first long session. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

INRE your reply: In conversations I had had with the creation staff and animators at DreamWorks, they shared that Farley had been first choice because of films likBeverly Hills Ninja, Black Sheep and Tommy Boy, they had loved the idea of a lovable goof on a mission. It would have been awesome. One of my favorite stills: [1] Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Keele University Halls of Residence

Hi 23skidoo, please see my reply to your comment on the AfD page for Keele University Halls of Residence. Bongomatic (talk) 12:03, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cell

Cell (Dragon Ball) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD I thought you would like to know why this AfD has been closed prematurely.JJJ999 (talk) 01:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Never mind, it looks like the move to unmerge will come from the talk page of the list of characters.JJJ999 (talk) 22:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Female_protagonists_in_Disney_animated_films

An article that you have been involved in AFDing, Female_protagonists_in_Disney_animated_films, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Female_protagonists_in_Disney_animated_films (2nd nomination). Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? (you had expressed an opinion on this AFD back in 2005. Thought I'd let you know it has been nominated again in case you cared to chime in a 2nd time.) Cheers! SpikeJones (talk) 04:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can you look at my document, and advise?

Could you look at THIS and advise if I am preparing it correctly, as I have never done such before. Thank you. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Were you referring to the article presently in AfD, or the one that came out of the first AfD as sourced and notable? And with respects, might you be able to tell me how it is that the first AfD's consensus can be ignored... as well as WP:NTEMP and WP:ATD? If the guidelines are changing, I'm gonna have to brush up on the new rules. - Best Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:21, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Very much appreciate your insights. Of course, that puts WP:NTEMP on a slippery slope, as any accepted notability is then subject to a later possible deletion if any editor feels that a notability no longer exists and does an AfD nomination. I do not envy the headaches the Admins must have. Best, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second Attempt to Delete Donna Eden

You made a comment the first time someone attempted to delete Donna Eden. Someone is trying again to delete it. If you want to comment again, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donna Eden 2. --Mbilitatu (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] William S. Burroughs

I'm not exactly sure what you mean, didn't I remove the "Queer Burroughs" paragraph in this edit? Anyhow, my revert was merely for technical reasons, since User:Insearchfortruth's edit changed the article back to this version which, incidentally, was also the last time he edited the page. He reinserted deleted images and typos along the way, while removing references that have been added in the meantime, etc. If there's anything you'd like to remove from the current version of the article, feel free to, I don't have any objections. --Conti|✉ 12:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject James Bond New Collaboration of the fortnight

 The Windler talk  00:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quantum Quest: A Cassini Space Odyssey

Whew. This was the most work I have ever done on any one article and boy... are my fingers tired. I am not asking for a vote at AfD, as I think I saved the article... but would like your input as to my work and suggestions for possible improvements. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Replied to your post

Hi. I've replied to your post at Wikipedia talk:Assume good faith#Bias against IPs. Just thought I'd let you know, since it's been many months, and it's not likely that you're checking back there daily. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 04:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors Novels portal The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 Member news Coordinators election voting and question time is now open. Project members should vote for any candidates they wish to support by November 28 at the Coordinator Elections. Yllosubmarine, aka Maria, has decided not to be reappointed, her work as sole Coordinator since the last elections in May is highly appreciated by all members of the project. The Novels Project now has 88 active members. 18 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Ladywitchthought has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Lemony Snicket task force". Project news On September 26, a fact on Shea Ohmsford, the protagonist of Terry Brooks novel The Sword of Shannara appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On September 29, the expanded article about the novel Thrones, Dominations written by Dorothy L. Sayers and Jill Paton Walsh appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 11, the new article Going, Going, Gone written by Jack Womack appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 18, a fact from The Dragon Lord by David Drake appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On October 22, the expanded articles The Sirian Experiments and The Making of the Representative for Planet 8 written by Doris Lessing appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 25, the new article A Real Basket Case by Beth Groundwater appeared on the main page in the DYK section. - Contributors are the_ed17, Maclean25 & Captain-tucker (who searched the archives). Task force and related news WikiProject North of the Rio Grande has begun. WP:NRG is an educational project aiming to "improve a selection of articles on Chicano and Latino literature to featured article status (or as near as possible)." Among the articles they are working on are How the García Girls Lost Their Accents and Who Would Have Thought It?. They welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Novels may be able to offer. If interested drop a note on their talk page. – Position of editor for 'Task force news' is still available at the Job Centre. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for three articles – At Swim-Two-Birds, The Emberverse series & Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, and please consider stopping by and reviewing an article, as we need more reviewers for our articles! – the_ed17 (talk), Editor – Peer review and assessment news Member in Focus Hi, I have been around this project for quite some time now. Bit of a hiatus earlier this year, but back now just contributing. The Novels WikiProject wasn't started by me but my interest in the subject initially attracted me to what was here. It has developed substantially in the last few years and now takes in all forms of Narrative Prose Fiction within its scope. We are about the content not the format of the prose so WP:Books differs a little in that an implied format is entailed; also they can also focus more clearly on non-fiction. WP:Literature are the "new boys on the block" and are a little more focused on the "quality" aspects of literature, and again they have less emphasis on pure fiction and the prose aspect. Our biggest problem is to maintain a certain focus of interest across such a broad subject area and we need workers who can develop task forces, teams for assessment, teams for peer review and so much more. "So much to do, so little time, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late" to misquote from Alice in Wonderland. Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) Current debates The featured list Narnian timeline has been nominated for removal. You can comment here. The Narnian timeline is a featured list, which means it has been identified as one of the best lists produced by the Wikipedia community. Novel related news Indian writer Aravind Adiga wins the Man Booker Prize for his debut novel, The White Tiger. From the Outreach Department As I shall be leaving Wikipedia, this will be my last newsletter. Any member who is interested in taking over the role of editor can sign up for the position at the Job Centre. Over the last month I have been working on a portal for our project. So am happy to announce that the Novels Portal is now up and running. Boylo (talk), Editor Boylo: Thank you for getting this newsletter back on its feet and going again. No Boylo equals no Novels Portal...heck, without you, we wouldn't have had a newsletter for these past months...so, for all of the members of the Novels WikiProject, I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into this project, and I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. Thanks, pal. the_ed17 (talk) Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Novel. As this is our Project's premier article, all members are asked to assist. The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge The Cater Street Hangman was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 21 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: Oberon Past and Present • To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City ... Our Collaboration Department is continuing with one more title for the current month: 'The Tin Drum'. Get collaborating on the article and also look at nominating other titles to be considered. Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

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[edit] RfD nomination of Monster House (2006 film

I have nominated Monster House (2006 film (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. JaGa^talk 06:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Review

Thanks for the info 23skidoo. I've put my article for deletion review here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_November_6

Could you have a look at it and put it back online? Your effort is much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camera123456 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on my talk page. I'm not disputing the original AfD - I have redone the page in the last 8 months to meet the objections from last time. I have also taken your suggestions and put detailed reasons in the discussion. If you have any advice for me, I'd appreciate it, otherwise, thank you very much for your time. Camera123456 (talk) 21:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Development history of the Final Fantasy series

Hi, you gave your input in the deletion discussion of this article; however, the problem remains on what exactly should be done with this article and the relevant featured articles. There is currently a discussion about it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Eight featured articles to be demoted. Please stop by and participate. Thanks. Megata Sanshiro (talk) 11:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Dakota Blue Richards

Hello, 23skidoo. You have new messages at Darth Panda's talk page.
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[edit] Rent: Filmed Live on Broadway (film)

Made some improvements on the article... adding some critical response (good and bad for balance), and expanding it a bit and filled out the infobox. I think we can do without a song listing... unless it a offered in a much briefer format as a soundtrack. Opinion? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 09:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rent: Filmed Live on Broadway

I took the assertions of notability in a different direction and think I did okay. Opinion? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help me!

Hi there. I have this problem that I've register the user name as Penulis at Wikipedia Malay version but I can't register to Wikipedia in the English version and the user Penulis in wikipedia English version does even exist. Can you help me with that. I will check you discussion page again later. 60.50.169.223 (talk) 15:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:69.110.41.54

You blocked this user for adding incorrect information to the Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio articles, however it looks like the user was correcting the information. Although the IP's edit on Flagship does not appear to be constructive, it was a few days ago, and unless there is something I can't see (for example, any deleted or oversighted edits by the IP), I don't think the block is needed. —Snigbrook 20:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• on Leonardo DiCaprio, the IP changed "won" back to "nominated"[2], it was User:68.165.191.93 who had changed it to "won" earlier[3] (the other changes had already been reverted by another IP), and on Kate Winslet, the Golden Globe nomination for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was in 2005 (see Golden Globe Award for Best Actress - Motion Picture Musical or Comedy and http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/Golden_Globes_USA/2005). —Snigbrook 23:00, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm starting to wonder if I blocked the wrong IP. I do stand corrected on the Winslet thing. I will undo the block and I've marked the other IP as the one to watch. Thanks for straightening it out. 23skidoo (talk) 23:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hmmm...

This somebody you recognize? See the deleted user page. Wikia A.d.m.i.n.i.s.t.r.a.t.o.r. (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · abuse filter log · block user · block log) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin to Admin question regarding AFD renominations

About 6 weeks ago, you closed an AFD for New Brooklyn with a Keep decision. Another user is either unaware of this or has chosen to ignore the outcome and has renominated the article here. Of course, when an article is deleted and someone doesn't like that, they can take it to deletion review. But do you know if there is a similar process for people to appeal Keep decisions they don't like? The reason I'm asking is I'm considering putting forward a proposal for just such a mechanism to perhaps cut down on the number of repeated AFDs. Although I'm unaware of a particular "time frame" policy and WP:NOTAGAIN doesn't really give a time limit, I'm constantly seeing AFD renominations for articles that have been kept, sometimes as recently as a few days earlier and more commonly a few weeks. (I'm talking about AFDs closed with keep decisions; as far as I'm concerned "No consensus" decisions are fair game to reopen). Thanks for your time (I prefer responses on my own talk page as I'm trying to cut down on my Watchlist). 23skidoo (talk) 15:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It has been known for keep closures to be brought to deletion review, although any such closure brought anything later than a week or so after the AFD tends to get met with "just renominate it". Equally, articles which are kept at AFD are often renominated later and there is no rule or policy against this (WP:NOTAGAIN is an essay). If the consensus seems to be that it is too soon or that a nomination is disruptive, there'll usually be a quick snowball close. Stifle (talk) 17:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems, though, that there is increasing consensus to reject AfD nomination after a keep within the prior month. I would advocate changing that to 3 or, better, 6 months (in the absence of additional evidence), in order to prevent deletion by the mere reliance on statistical fluctuation in participation. As for appealing keeps in the absence of very clear blatant error, the balance of the procedures is already tilted very heavily towards deletion. DGG (talk) 04:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree 100%. I have been advocating a "minimum time" between nominations for awhile now and I think I even posted a comment suggesting same at one of the "town pump" discussion pages, only to have it ignored. Certainly any AFD that passes with a clear "keep" decision within 4-6 weeks prior should be closed because most recent issues would have been addressed in the prior discussion. 23skidoo (talk) 15:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wilson the Volleyball

I invite you to take a look at the pre-Schmidt article. There is an amazing amount of notability I have found on the ball itself, and after correcting the "trivia" list to make it encyclopedic, I am currently going through the article and sourcing the informations. Youch. So much to do. I will be posting requests on the pages of the various contributors to the article, asking them to provide specific sourcing for their additions to the pre-AfD article. That one film device has been so imortalized in other works is amazing. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

You're right. Daily Motion was overused. Now fixed. More to do, more to do.... Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:FILMS Questionnaire

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[edit] file:UbuRoi.jpg

Hey, I hope you don't mind, I've gone and replaced this cover with a copy of the original woodcut (file:Ubu-Jarry.png). A cover of the first edition is also available (file:Première Ubu Roi.jpg), if you think it more appropriate. Cheers, ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 03:04, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I'll make sure to elaborate in future deletion summaries. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 04:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Futaba Channel

Hi there. You were a participant in the AfD discussion for Futaba Channel, which I closed as "delete." I have decided to relist the article at AfD; the discussion is here. Your further input is welcome. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 18:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy Keep

Hi 23skidoo

Please see Wikipedia:Guide to deletion#Shorthands for the definition of "Speedy keep" in an AfD discussion (which current definition does not appear to represent a consensus view) and Wikipedia talk:Guide to deletion#Definition of "Speedy keep", a discussion I initiated explaining why (despite the original use of the shorthand) the consensus view is that your usage is what should be denoted by a "Speedy keep" opinion in an AfD.

Bongomatic 15:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Black president

I have rewritten this article and fully cited it. I hope you can read over it and share your thoughts. • Freechild'sup? 15:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Danger Man

I note you keep an eye on Danger Man and you are not averse to Trivia. I have started a Trivia section on Danger Man and made amendments to Edwin Astley re his music to Danger Man, The Saint, and The Champions. I think you know my main edit is to Queen Of Swords which I have expanded threefold over the last 3 months. I hope it meets your approvalREVUpminster (talk) 10:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A centralised discussion which may interest you

Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal

There's a discussion on catgut's talk page here about a user who keeps adding spurious information to select pages. I bring this to your attention because the user keeps adding "French Inhaler" to John Griswold's chronology in James Bond novels. Oddly, I can see that as a Fleming title. We can continue this discussion either on your talk page or on Catgut's. Fanthrillers (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] user

I will take a look today & email you. DGG (talk) 20:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Mission Impossible

See recent findings and proposal on Talk:Mission: Impossible#Moving the article. I plan to move the article if nobody objects over the next week. I you do have concerns, please note them on the talk page. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 13:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

• My formal attempt to move this article ended in failure. It seems to be stuck with its current name forever. Maybe I didn't try hard enough ... Aymatth2 (talk) 18:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re; Talk:Mission: Impossible

I do not see that I owe you an apology for pointing out a fact. I even explained in detail how this was so. Consequently, there will be none unless you defend your statements to which I was referring and justify an apology. At least for now, I stand by my comment as completely justified in its context. I have explained in many discussions that interpreting the "No Personal Attacks" rule so strictly that if an editor points out irrefutably bad behavior of one sort or another by some other editor, he is faulted for doing so rather than the other be properly disciplined for his behavior, is to the detriment of the encyclopedia as it not just condones but encourages such bad behavior. --Ted Watson (talk) 06:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 29 - March 2009
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors Novels portal The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 From the Coordinators As you can see, this is about as bare-bones of a newsletter as you can get. The reason for this is that the newsletter has and will be inactive, but we wanted to get a last one out detailing the current state of our project. The truth is that WP:NOVELS is in bad shape. Only a few editors are active in editing inside of our project. Our Peer Review section, this newsletter, our task forces, and our collaboration center are all dead; although a collab is picked each month, not a lot of work seems to occur. Out of these ashes, we are proposing that the project start an A-class review system. This will hopefully bring people together for reviewing, and will perhaps get the project some sorely-needed attention from others who can come in and help rehabilitate it. Final plans have not been established, but we will see about getting a mass message out to all of the project members if/when it is set up; discussion of this can be conducted on the General Forum. This newsletter will probably be the last we will have for a long time, as neither Ed nor Kevinalewis have the time to create these every month. However, if any editor is willing to step up and create one, we would be glad to assist you in making it up. If you don't want to create a newsletter, but would still like to help, there are plenty of things that can be done. As detailed on the right, the Novels Peer Review section has four articles needing attention, but only one review has been done; one from May, one from November, and one from December have not had any comments left on them. Please consider helping out there; even a 15-minute review would help. Your coords, –Kevinalewis (talk · contribs) and the_ed17 (talk · contribs) Member news Talk between Kevinalewis and the_ed17, the two project coordinators, has led to us deciding to suspend elections for coordinators indefinitely. With the exceedingly low amount of participation in the last elections (five total votes), we do not feel that it is worth it to try to set up another election. 20 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Shantaram (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection in April, so cast your vote. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for four articles – Sector General, Petals of Blood, Scenes of Clerical Life, and Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, but please consider stopping by and reviewing an article; we need more reviewers for our articles (there is a PR that has been open since May)! – the_ed17 (talk) Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 21 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: Oberon Past and Present • To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City ... Our Collaboration Department is continuing with one more title for the current month: 'The Tin Drum'. Get collaborating on the article and also look at nominating other titles to be considered. Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 16:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for File:IanFleming.jpg

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[edit] HI

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (File:CareerOpportunities.jpg)

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[edit] A deletion review discussion you may wish to contribute to.

Hi. I've listed two deleted articles at Wikipedia:Deletion_review, following the discussion on "lists of unusual things" which took place earlier in the year. As a contributor to that discussion, you might be interested in expressing an opinion on whether the two deleted articles should be restored. SP-KP (talk) 15:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (File:Warday.jpg)

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[edit] James Bond

The above article is being re-assessed as part of the GA Sweeps project The re-assessment has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass; otherwise it will fail. See Talk:James Bond for things needing to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - June 2009

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 30 - June 2009
Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors Novels portal The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 30 - June 2009 Member news Coordinators election. An election has been long overdue, and therefore one will begin shortly. If you wish to stand, please put your name in by June 28, when voting will start. Members are encouraged to vote for the candidate they wish to support by July 21 at the Coordinator Elections. The Ed17 has decided not to stand for re-election. His work as Assistant Coordinator, along with Kevinalewis, since the last elections in October is highly appreciated by all members of the project. The Novels Project now has 128 active members. 17 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only fill a position for a short time. The His Dark Materials task force has been set up, and the role of coordinator has been undertaken by Pmlinediter. Project news On April 7, a fact about novelist Karin Bang appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On April 10, a fact about Pride and Prejudice and Zombies written by Seth Grahame-Smith appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On April 23, a fact about the protagonist Cousin Betty in Honoré de Balzac's La Cousine Bette appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On April 25, a fact from the article Blanca Olmedo written by Lucila Gamero appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On June 9, a fact from The Fox and the Hound by Daniel P. Mannix appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On June 15, a fact from The Road to Yuba City by Tracy Kidder appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. - Contributors are Alan16, (who searched the archives). Task force and related news His Dark Materials task force has begun. This task force is dedicated to improving all articles in the scope of Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. The main purpose of this taskforce is to expand, cite, and promote all articles in scope of the series. They welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Novels may be able to offer. If interested, drop a note on their talk page. – Position of editor for the task force has been undertaken by Pmlinediter. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for seven articles – The Last of the Masters, The Kindly Ones, Flowers for Algernon, World War Z, Sector General, Petals of Blood, and Scenes of Clerical Life. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, and please consider stopping by and reviewing an article, as we need more reviewers for our articles! – the_ed17 (talk) and Alan16 (talk) Member in Focus Hi, I have been a member of this project for a few months now, and after finally gotten to grips with Wikipedia I have decided to take on the role of writing this newsletter (currently by myself, but any help would be appreciated) with some helpful tips from The Ed17. After undertaking this I realise why it was so difficult to keep it going. I will, however, persevere. From the members, I would encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, and take up roles at the Job Centre. The project has struggled recently, and I am hoping to try and revive it. If, with the publication of this newsletter, there are a couple of things that aren't quite up-to-date (like the Collaboration part), you can be certain I am working on it. I will be trying to get a newsletter out on around the 21st of every month. Finally, thanks for the help Ed. Regards, Alan16 (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC) Current debates A Kenneth Oppel task force has been proposed. You can comment here. Oppel is a Canadian author who specialises in Young adult fiction. Novel related news American writer Michael Hemp wins the 2009 Next Generation Indie Book Award in the Action/Adventure category for his novel, The Nadjik Pheromone. From the Outreach Department This is my first attempt at the newsletter, and I hope it at least gets close to the previous high standards set by Kevinalewis and The Ed17. I will once again encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, as I hope it could be the springboard to revitalise the project. I'll keep working on the newsletter, partially because I like the stress, and partially because we need it to get members and would-be members interested. Hopefully the start of great things. Regards, Alan. Collaboration of the Month Because there has been little activity on our Collaboration page for a long time, I have made an executive decision, and chosen The Tin Drum as our Collaboration of the month. All members are asked to assist where they can. The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 July, 2009 so nominate and vote. Newsletter challenge This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. It is a previous, uncompleted challenge. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 21 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: Oberon Past and Present • To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City ... Our Collaboration Department is continuing with one more title for the current month: 'The Tin Drum'. Get collaborating on the article and also look at nominating other titles to be considered. Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

[edit] GA reassessment of The Man with the Golden Gun (novel)

I am conducting a review of this article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have delisted the article. There are several concerns which have been left at Talk:The Man with the Golden Gun (novel)/GA1, which need to be addressed if the article is to regain GA status. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election

Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

[edit] Don't leave yet!

Don't just turn and run. We've got "a last ditch effort" so to speak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Socionics —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcaudilllg (talk • contribs) 15:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinator Election

Hello. The Coordiantor Election has begun. All members are encouraged to vote by the deadline, July 28. To vote simply add support to the comments and questions for.. section of the member of your choice.

3 users are standing:

• Alan16 (talk · contribs)
• Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
• Pmlinediter (talk · contribs)

Regards, Alan16 (talk) 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC).