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• Talk:Britannia (Request for comment ) — Two requests for comment on the same sentence:* 1. A compromise was achieved relating to the wording of the introduction. One party asserted that the sources said the Greek term Pretannia was cognate with Pretanic Isles and that the resulting Latin derivation (Britannia) might also, therefore, apply to the whole archipelago. The second party drew a distinction between "derived from" and "equates to". Is the current compromise edit correct?* 2. A third party entered the discussion to assert that the "Britannia" was not derived from "Pretannia" and that Caesar coined the term independently. The first party disagrees. Wiki-Ed (talk) 19:14, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Pacifica Forum (Longrunning Dispute) — I would like some outside feedback on this article. User: Xeugene keeps making edits to the article in a fashion that seems to me to be anti-Semitic; at one point he/she dissed Elie Wiesel in a comment accompanying an edit. Also, this user keeps insisting that David Irving and Mark Weber are not Holocaust deniers because they don't deny the entire Holocaust, just 90% of it (they claim 600,000 deaths as opposed to 6 million).I reverted these edits because denying part of the Holocaust is still considered a form of Holocaust denial, at least according to the legal codes of countries in which it is unlawful to deny or minimize the Holocaust. However User: Xeugene keeps reverting me back. I don't want this to turn into an edit war, so I'd like an outside opinion. Stonemason89 (talk) 13:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
• Template talk:The Holocaust (Trimming the template) — Some time ago I suggested that the list of ghettos should be trimmed up only to major ones; Poeticbent above suggests an even more wider series of cutting down the excess fat from this template - and I agree with his sentiments. Still, since this template talk is highly used and yet is apparently not cared for (as my original suggestion went uncommented upon for months), I think a wider RfC is in order. Comments appreciated, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Pontiac Hispanic History Preservation Project (Article name correction ) — I have spoken to my mother and have verified that the correct name is Pontiac Hispanic History Project. I told her to ask Mr. Blevens to publish a correction and have left Sfiller (a member of the committee) instructions on how to submit an e-mail correction. With this in mind what do we do about the article name? Do we wait it out and let OTRS correct it? Do we correct it knowing a justification is on the way? Padillah (talk) 19:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Connecticut (rfc: NRHP historic districts vs. villages ) — In the absence of evidence of substantial overlap, and of consensus decisions for mergers, must NRHP-listed historic districts be merged to articles on neighborhoods, villages, towns that may contain them? doncram (talk) 06:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
• Template talk:New Castle County, Delaware (RfC: Should the Unincorporated Communities be limited to those with a GSA code? ) — I would like editors to weigh in on these two options:*Version 1 - limited to actual communities with a GSA code*Version 2 - expanded to include every entry in the USGS GNIS with a Census Class Code of U6Maher-shalal-hashbaz (talk) 13:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Hannibal (RfC: Is the roman bust relevant/reliable) — Is the roman bust relevant/reliable to the article, "sources does not seem to support its authenticity.TruHeir (talk) 15:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Nanking Massacre (Requests for comment on the POV vs. NPOV of this article ) — Self-explanatory. Is the article pushing a point of view and what should be done? just a little insignificant 22:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
• Talk:Edward Said (Request for comment) — Dispute over the content and length of a section in this article on "Palestinian American literary theorist, cultural critic and political activist", Edward Said. The section concerns a Commentary magazine article (and the ensuing arguement over it) on where Edward Said, spent his childhood. Its author, Israeli-American lawyer Justus Weiner, argued that "Said's family did not permanently reside in Talbiya or live there during the final months of the British mandate, and therefore ... could not be considered refugees," and that this meant Said had fabricated his life story. --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history (Proposed modification of Firearm article structure ) —

• Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Nakba. Should the word "Nakba" be used on Wikipedia to describe the exodus of Palestinians from their homes in Palestine, in connection with the creation of the state of Israel? 19:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Flash Back

[edit] Clinton and Klieneman, the Demon Prince

Its not all the time a stranger from the street is well come to stay for as long as he or she wants, like as l was offered here but l was just too sick to understand and get involed at that time. Everything seemed to come at my back all the time. If l had stayed something would have happened, sooner or later. l decided to go back to Denmark and fix my things first, just to bounce back to the man himself.

I had taken the night train from Stockholm to Copenhagen and arrived in the morning. Then l phoned one girl in Aarhus to ask her if she could send me some money by western union. The girl told me she would send me some money at 12 noon. "12 noon dangerous time for me", l thought to my self.

I decided to go up the walking street as the shops started opening. Then l came to one shop and l went up. As l was up the gaurd came and told me that l was not well come because lm supposedly had been there the day before, trying to buy things with a stolen credit card. This gaurd took me to some girls who said at once that it was not me, he then took me to the guy who accused me, dong he was a jew. They asked him if it was me who was there the day before, he never wanted to say anything, until l got charged and kicked their till. They then let me go, but l was shocked.

Now I just ran from the Stars of David just to bounce back to a false accusation by a Jew. I asked my self what is the meaning of this? Starting point, 1999 at The Dungeons Museum, The Museum for people who were subjected to gruesome human rights abuses and Greenwich MEAN TIME on your marks get set, ready go, mean time. And mean it got. The same question in the Dungeons museum kantine while sitting with the Swedish girl from Gøteborg voted for DF because of their childcare policies, the waitress dropped the ketchup at our table like the ten commandments (biblical) at 12 o`clock mean time. The same question l asked my self under the Muhammed Cartoon crisis, the day l was hit in museum street, at 12 o`clock noon mean time and fell on my knees like the world Trade Center. Just as the waitress in the Dungeons museum dropped Ketchup like the ten Commandments at our table. Under the Lebanon war and saw this Jewish old man trying to set up young Germans to go and run over innocent people. Torben who was in our team but did not want to come in the Dungeons museum with us lives in this block,in museum gade where l was brought down on my knees biblically like the waitress dropped the ketchup at our table like the ten commandments (biblically) What a coincedance? I shock the German guys hands for the humane arguments they put then again under the Jyllandposten crisis l am hit by Kleineman a German name. I was still confused if the Germans thought, l had come with that Jew who tried to set their boys to commite atrocities or if that Jew was trying to set up the Germans, or was it Danes who were cooking something. The police said its just innocent fine young guys, why did you crawl, now the state will make sure you never, ever shall crawl again. Then I get subjected to sect terror by kirkens korshær and abuse of power, temptations and deceptions by the organs of the state, wno had got me caught in the spider´s web of crime. Its all about what morale people have, yet there is a lot of temptations and deceptions. The Germans said no Danish has this morale to tell them to go after innocent women and children. Then after l was hit the Danish police said, why did you crawl, now the state will make sure you never, ever shall crawl again.

Klieneman connects me to Codan Insurance Company that refused to compensate me fully and refered me to Kommune the state organ that the police said would make sure that l will never crawl again like those towers. Codan connects me to Brøndby and Clinton who were to appear to compliment those who had brought me down like the TWC and said the state shall make sure l will never crawl again. They say its not Klieneman ,the small man, then l went to hit Codan just to bounce back to Clinton. on his way to Brøndby Football stadium which is sponsored by Codan the insurance company of Magnus Kleineman, the one who bought me down on my knees like the world Trade Center and as Brøndby fans are regarded, the police said its fine young guys, why did l crawl from ground zero in museumgade? He could not see you anymore, why you did that? Now the state will make sure that l shall never, ever crawl away again. The Codan the insurance company refused to compensate me fully, referring me to Kommune the organ of the state that the police said would make sure that l shall never ever crawl away again from ground zero like those WTC towers. Fifty thousand of these would attend, and all the politicians who pose as friends of America and allies on the war on terror. What a manifestation of power for the fine young guys who brought me down on my knees in museum street and they said now the state shall make sure l shall never ever crawl away again like those towers yet Bill Clinton`s mission was associated with the campaign on the war on terror that was started by the attack that brought the world Trade Center on its knees and its now a museum.

Clinton was now made to look like those who had compliment those who had brought me down on my knees like the World Trade Center and doomed me to ground zero in museumgade just like those towers, a move that was to make him look like a hypocrate. All this trouble they were giving me was designed to give a killer instinct. The noise from construction sites and heavy trucks which were trouble for me and the WTC after it, like l was brought down on its knees. And the fact that l was having this noise in one ear that was going sh ii, shii, sh-iii 24 hours non stop like an amatuer radio that was out of tune now one year after, making me extremely aggressive.

The weekend before l started the job at the hotel way back in 2001 l woke up with a funny dream. I saw in this dream a lot of journalist taking pictures of a man who was lying down in middle of cross roads. This man was as big as a grown up elephant that was lying down too. These roads were crossing like X or the Union Jake flag. not +.

These journalist were saying its my father who died, but l could see it was not my father. Then this man said in my fathers voice, Zenzo l am still alive. There was UN racism conference in South Africa. Israel pulled out in protest then the next day the World Trade Center was knocked.

l started work at the hotel 9/11/ 2001 and later that after noon the planes hit the towers, and brought them to their knees, in Ground Zero. Greenwich Mean time, Zero Degrees, Ground Zero, or Z for the code for Military and Aviation. I saw a lot of journalist as l had seen then in a dream two days before. It made me so sick that l did not go to work the next day. After this l ran to take a train and went to Malmo, Sweden, because l thought the police would come back at me now that l did not do anything. My escape from Clinton to Sweden connects me to the the train from Gøteborg where the girl l was with in Dungeons museum kantine when the waitress dropped the ketchup at our table like the ten commandments (biblical) is born and voted for DF because of their childcare policies. There is small kids wondering around late at night and the Swedish girl from Gøteborg voted for DF because of their childcare policies.

There are under aged kids wondering about late at night crushing bottles, and there is an old man with his head down, a sign of big, big social problem. What can be a big, big social problem in Sweden? Kids crushing bottles connect me to Klieneman, who hit me down in museumgade with a bottle and started a big social problem for me.

I come to Stockholm, Sweden with a train from Goteborg where she is born that leaves (dont forget)memories, The child, who used to come in many of my dreams crying as if it was in the Mexican rubbish dumping places (once the largest in the world) and the children outside the WTC are all caught up in something they do not know how to get out of, as the germans guys said, they did not want to be sent to Lebanon for fear of being caught in something they did not know how to come out from. The small Den and his Canadian freinds who imported red apples from Lebanon not the red Lebanon the hashish and engineering where ever. (world service the code for BBC mean time) But it was Kurt Westergaard the guy who drew the Mohammed cartoons was called the new Holger Dansker, a Danish hero with good arms, for setting the Danish flags on fire and the boycot of Arla Foods which nourishes the kids.

The Mexican rubbish dumping places and the children who have red/yellow and blue marks outside the Swedish World Trade Center are caught up in something they do not know how to get out of. Mexican rubbish dumping places and the New York TWC ground zero all have similar heavy truck noise that were a problem after l was hit. The problems l suffered in ground zero were: Traffic The noise of heavy trucks starting in traffic lights. Motor bikes kids were meeting just outside my window.

Construction

Noise from construction sites was unbearable. Nabours who bore holes all the time There was a nabour who used to bore holes on the concrete wall everyday time and again. When he moved the whole walls in his apartment had to be taken down. Now the hand-workers were working eight hours a day with very noisy machines. Road works Road Works machines and renovations that were all over town, were a big problem to me. Party Kids Noise from party kids every weekend. And all the problems arssociated with being unemployed and homeless. There was shii, shii, shii noise in one ear like a radio that was not fine tuned, 24hours non stop for one and half years. This noise ended when the police slammed my head on the pavement of the parliament buildings after l had smashed windows there. I had already smashed windows of Jyllamdsposten, Codan, and the Aarhus City Hall.

I was invited by some african brothers to their house but to my surprise their house had no pictures on the walls at all, all the rooms were decorated by the star of David. Stars of David, a strong biblical symbol again, and the guy is complaining about gangsters. The Christian fanatic who was playing a moral guardian, connects me to the Royal family who are heads of the church and moral guardians. The Swedish Queen, the smart business men appears as it was with Clinton and his visit to Brøndby Stadium, which is sponsored by Codan the insurence of the guy who brouhgt me down on my knees in museumgade, as if they just compliment megatrones from the World Trade Center, who do not care about the small man. The blue and yellow colours of Brøndby football team, the Swedish flag and the Brazilian national team home colours all repeat the pattern like the stars of David on the walls. I had arrived where the girl said come, come and see what they do to my father people. The star of David and 12 the nr. of the time 12´O clock mean time that l was hit remind me of an ocult. In the bible Klieneman, the small man David killed the Giant Golliat. Driven by the blue and yellow colours of the Brøndby Football team, which is sponsored by Codan the insurence of the guy who brouhgt me down on my knees in museumgade, just to find my self guided by the same colours of the Swedish Flag and the blue and recievede by yellow home colours of the Brazilian football team where the Swedish Queen is born and the region of South America from where the child, who used to come in many of my dreams crying as if it was in and the Swedish Palace turned into a museum for the smart business men tourists from the World Trade Center. Clinton came from Sweden to Denmark, of which l am sure he had also visited the Swedish World Trade Center there.

There is also American precision watch maker, called Magnus for the precise mean times the waitress at the Dungeons museum dropped the ketchup at our table like the ten commandments and the time l was hit at Museumgade and fell on my knews biblically at 12 O`clock mean time, the precise time they set me to meet Clinton,The timing of train from Gøteborg that would leave mean time memories, the time l came just when the palace guards were to take time out and the smart business men who were crowded at the Swedish palace entrance, making it an easy target to hit, and the Africans who came right on time just before my heart stopped direct to their sect like home, that was decorated with the stars of David reminding me of the Jewish church fanatic who said Dens was to just want to die in a rocking chair, while, the time l was experiencing children caught in something they did not know how to come out of.

I thought l was avoiding an act of terror against Clinton just to bounce back to World Trade Center in Sweden and Swedish palace.

In many websites, the name Magnus, the first name of Klieneman(the small man) the guy behind the bottle that brought me on my knews biblically at 12 O`clock mean time seems to be assorciated with a Daermonic things, since the days of Abraham to modern Science fiction, as prince of darkness who wants to conquer the universe, of which in this case connects me to the millenium project in 1999.

By Zenzo M. Mpofu Aarhus, Denmark

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